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Old Mine Road

On That Road Again

By Bob Koppenhaver

In the 1600s Dutch miners discovered copper ore in a beautiful ravine located about seven miles north of the Delaware Water Gap. To access the ore and to transport it to Kingston, New York, they constructed a road, now known as the Old Mine Road. Primitive by present standards, it was a major undertaking in its day, and legends of the road and its Dutch miners have persisted for over two centuries.

Old Mine Road runs about 40 miles through the Delaware Water Gap National Recreation Area (DWGNRA), along the northwestern edges of Warren and Sussex Counties on its way to Kingston. The Recreation Area was established after the abandonment of the proposed Tocks Island Dam project in the late 1960s. The entire district was condemned, and most of the structures razed, in preparation for a vast reservoir that was to cover the communities and farms that once stood along the old road. The dam was never constructed, and the pristine atmosphere that permeates the park today is ironic compensation for the havoc wreaked by the plan.

Recent flood damage has closed part of the road that closely follows the river's contour. Yet again there are whispers about damming the Delaware. Still, the road's natural beauty and solitude make for a perfect autumn drive along its accessible portions. And knowing what was once along the route gives a better appreciation of the character of the old road and the people who have lived along its edges.

Interstate Route 80 west provides easy access to the southern portion of Old Mine Road and leads past some interesting sites on the way. After driving west past the Columbia exit (#4), the Interstate passes under a huge former railroad bridge that crosses the Delaware River. When it was built in the early 1900s, this viaduct was the world's longest poured concrete bridge. As you enter the Water Gap beyond the bridge, on the right are about a dozen old cellar holes, all that remains of the forgotten hamlet of Browning or Browntown. The folks residing here were associated with an old slate quarry farther back in the mountain, and one of the first volunteers for duty in the Civil War lived here.

Winter solstice: For a special treat, on the first day of winter, pull over into the grassy overflow parking area just across Dunnfield Creek. Look back, and, if you are here early enough, you will see the sun rise out of the middle of the Water Gap.

The former site of Dunnfield, another hamlet consisting of a few houses, a post office, train station, and a thriving slate business, is now a parking area for the Dunnfield Creek Trail and others.

Past the parking areas you'll see the sign for "Last Exit in NJ ­ Flatbrookville." Turn right at the bottom of the ramp and proceed to the 3-minute traffic light that accommodates a one-way stretch ahead. On your left, the New York-Susquehanna & Western once ran along the river, carrying passengers, freight and milk from local farms. It passed through Dunnfield and crossed the river about a mile ahead. Today the old railbed is used as the Karamac hiking trail.

Past the light, the single-lane road seems to hang from the edge of the cliff, indicating how difficult travel once was around the mountain. The narrowest portion of the Water Gap has been known as "Indian Ladder" for centuries. Before blasting for the railroad and the highway that later followed cleared the way, travelers needed to use a notched log or rope to assist them up and over the projecting rocky outcropping that came straight down to the river.

Ground Hog Hollow rises into the mountain on your right. This area was once peppered with estates used as vacation getaways by prominent New Yorkers. Today only large cellar holes up on the mountain above the hollow remain to mark where these large homes were located. More recent tenants live in an active bear's den farther up the hollow and a fox den down toward the river.

About a mile beyond, Karamac Trail heads toward the river where it merges with the old railbed. The Farview Trail, an antique mountain road, heads up and over the mountain, passes by an old home site or two and eventually meets the Appalachian Trail. The trail names recall the former Camp Karamac, a large resort, popular in its day, and its predecessor, the Far View House. Karamac boasted a large lodge, tennis courts, archery range, waterfront swimming and boating areas, dances amd bands, and other activities befitting the agendas of young socialites. Wandering along these trails you can still find traces of the old camp, including the tennis courts.


Paint Spring deposits. Photo by Bob Koppenhaver

Another mile and the ruins of a very old dam can be seen in a small ravine in the mountainside on the right. Following the watercourse up the mountain for a quarter-mile or so will lead you to the Paint Springs. These two small pools are surrounded by rich rusty orange "mud" deposits, the pigments of which could be used to make paint­ or, mixed with bear grease, maybe even war paint!! The "Paint Spring Lot" was surveyed a couple of hundred years ago, indicating early interest in these pigments. Or perhaps the rusty deposits pointed to iron ore in the mountain.

A small riverside hamlet called Brotzmansville once sat below the old dam. Over the years the hamlet had a few mills, houses, a school, and a post office. Nearly all traces were washed away in 1955 when the Delaware River rose to a level eclipsing even the recent floods.

From the Interstate exit to here, the road has passed mostly through Worthington State Forest, named after C. C. Worthington, a wealthy late nineteenth century industrialist who once owned all 8,000 acres contained within the park, and hundreds more across the river. While developing resort property in Pennsylvania, Worthington maintained a relatively natural character in Buckwood Park, his domain that extended from the river to the top of the mountain, including Sunfish Pond. The road passes the State Forest headquarters on the left, located in a former farmhouse that was, during Worthington's tenure, called Buckwood Inn Farm, probably supplying fresh farm goods for the resort across the river. An old ferry ramp below the farmhouse predates the farm, providing interstate transport for early Americans. Long before that, this spot was a major crossing for Minnisink Indians fording the river.

Across the road from the headquarters, a beautiful waterfall cascades down the mountain. Farther up the steep mountainside an ancient stone bridge spans the watercourse above the waterfall. Near this old bridge are the remnants of a terracotta pipeline that once ran from Sunfish Pond at the top of the mountain to the ferry farm below. The pipeline used gravity to carry the cold fresh waters of Sunfish Pond down the mountain to serve Worthington's farm and guests. It has been suggested that the pipeline crossed under the Delaware River to bring the water to Worthington's guests at his PA mansion near Shawnee.

A mile up the road from the State Park headquarters is the parking lot for the Douglas Trail, a 2.5-mile long path that leads up to Sunfish Pond on the top of the mountain, named in honor of Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas for his part in helping to save the pond's natural character. Less than a mile beyond the Douglas Trail the road follows very closely to the river's edge. Along here is a tiny parking lot from which you can see Tocks Island upriver. Had the dam project been completed, there would now be an earthen barrier across the river rising 150 feet over the island. The New Jersey mountainside would have been deeply gouged out to provide fill for the dam and to make room for a large spillway.

Not far from this parking area, the Army Corps of Engineers cut a tunnel 600 feet into the mountain above the roadway. In order to test the stability of the strata surrounding the proposed dam, 1,200 rock-core borings were extracted to determine what rock layers lay beneath. The Rock Cores Trail zigzags up the mountainside, roughly covering the area where the borings were done. Some of the borings, as large as 2 or 3 feet in diameter, are still up there, awaiting your inspection. Upon first seeing them you will think you have discovered the pillars of an ancient temple.


Rock core samples left by the Army Corps of Engineers

Less than a mile upstream from Tocks, a few old overgrown lanes lead up from the bottomlands along the river, one of which once served a 1930s country resort called Harry's Farm, where the Rutgers College football team trained in the summer, and Jersey Joe Walcott prepared for battle with Joe Louis. Another of the lanes led down to the Coppermine Inn, frequented by tourists and locals for many years. In the 1700s one of the Shoemaker ferries was established here as a lodging for guests, including raftsmen guiding huge timber rafts to markets downstream. In the 1800s this inn was under the proprietorship of another Shoemaker, and was known as the Union Hotel.

Less than two miles beyond Tocks Island is the parking area for the Coppermines Trail, which passes near the mines for which Old Mine Road is named. Although many people refer to the portion of the road from the Gap to this point as Old Mine Road, it really begins here at the copper mines. Although there is no substantial proof, legend says the Dutch started these mines as early as the 1600s. Mining was attempted a few times from at least the 1700s until the early 1900s. After the last attempt to mine copper failed, the land was taken over by the Boy Scouts of America and converted into Camp Pahaquarra, a popular summer camp that incorporated some of the mining company's buildings for its own use.


A few small openings may be a result of early “pick & wedge” explorations by Dutch miners. Photo by Bob Koppenhaver

The copper mines and associated workings are across the road from the parking area. There are 18 mines or diggings existing today, mostly small in scope, remnants from the late 1800s and early 1900s. No one really knows what the earliest mines looked like or where they were. Legend states that the Dutch covered their mines or blew them shut to stop the English from taking them over in the late 1600s. Some still visible small openings may be a result of early "pick and wedge" explorations.

To see the lower mine, follow the trail a few hundred feet until the trail forks to the left along Mine Brook. Follow the brook and trail a few hundred yards until you suddenly come upon the mine adit. The mine is gated and locked, but just seeing this old mine in this beautiful ravine is worth the walk back there.

Moving on a short distance beyond Camp Pahaquarra, the Old Mine Road passes former Camp Cowaw, another BSA camp used until this area was taken over for the Tocks Island project. About a quarter-mile beyond former Camp Pahaquarra, the road passes the Poxono Island Boat launch, once Camp Cowaw waterfront.

A mile beyond the boat launch, the Calno School still sits along the road, a lonely reminder of a different time when families lived here. Behind the school is a large bottomland once known as Pahaquarry Flats. Nearly a mile long and half a mile wide, Native American villages of various time periods occupied this vicinity. A short distance beyond, the road passes a small cluster of houses and farm buildings once owned by VanCampens and Depues, both long-established family names throughout the valley. These structures are some of the few that survived the razing done in preparation for the never-to-be-built reservoir's rising waters. In the late 1800s, these and other homes located here were shown on maps as Calno Post Office.

About 250 years ago, during the era of the French & Indian War, as many as eight forts were built along the NJ portion of Old Mine Road. Some of these forts were fortified houses; others might have been more conventional stockaded forts. One of these forts, designated on old documents as "Van Camp's", was located somewhere here near the VanCampen and Depue homesteads.

Just beyond the buildings, a lane on the left crosses Van Campen's brook and once led into a farm or two. More recently the area along the river back there was used for the Depue Recreation Area. This area is now closed, again due to recent flood damage.

Continuing on, Old Mine Road parallels the beautiful Van Campen's Glen. The first trailhead is reached by turning right at the sign where a short dirt lane leads to a picnic area from which hikers can follow the naturally sculpted streambed of Van Campen's Brook into the Glen. Or continue to a small marked roadside parking area a little further up to hike down the glen. Either way will yield beautiful views along one of the nicest paths in New Jersey.


The Calno schoolhouse is currently unoccupied.

The long-vacant Coppermine Inn (above) still awaits a tenant while the Delaware View House (below) housed a small general store for years.

Just before the hamlet of Millbrook lies the entrance to the Watergate area, acres of groomed grassy lawns on which to picnic, a pond or two, and public restrooms! Soon you'll come to Millbrook Village. Although it appears quite different from when it was a functioning, viable town a hundred or more years ago, this assemblage of structures is meant to resemble the old towns of the period. Millbrook is the site of a popular fall festival sponsored by the National Park Service in October.

Leaving Millbrook, Old Mine Road continues into Walpack Township in Sussex County. About a half mile from Millbrook is the northern trailhead for the Hamilton Ridge Trail, which leads to another trail steeply downhill toward the river, along the slides of Sambo Falls. Follow it until you finally reach another ancient path along the edge of the river. It has been claimed that this old trail is actually the original Old Mine Road.

About a mile beyond the trailhead, the Delaware View House is located on a T-intersection of Old Mine Road and the former Flatbrookville-Stillwater Road, which heads up the hill to the right (a fascinating trip in itself.) The original Greek Revival farmhouse­two rooms up, two rooms down­was built in 1837. In 1892 a multi-storey addition was built around the house to become a lodge called the Flatbrook Hotel. Sometime in the early 1900s it became known as the Delaware View House until 1926, when the building became known as Salamovka, a resort for Russian émigrés. Today the building serves as a general store for park visitors, part of the Historic Leasing Program invented in the 1980s to attract private investors to occupy and rehabilitate historic structures. Stop in for a hot dog, a chat with proprietor George Kately, and a beautiful view over the river valley from the front porch.

From the Delaware View House, the Old Mine Road descends for about a half-mile before crossing the Flatbrook and reaching a stop sign at a T-intersection. Turn left to stay on Old Mine Road through the former town of Flatbrookville. Years ago you would now be passing the Flatbrookville School, Flatbrookville church, various dwellings, even a post office. Today only a few buildings remain.

Here the road twists through the Walpack Bend, so named for the large S-curve in the Delaware. Walpack, the historical name for this general area and for the surrounding township, is the corrupted form of a more complex Indian term meaning "whirlpool". Sources from long ago referred to a circular eddy in the Delaware at the mouth of the Flatbrook. It is said that this circular current becomes pronounced during times of high water, so strong that it can suck down large trees.

About 3/4-mile from the stop sign by the Flatbrook and along the last curve of the "S", you will see a lane coming up from the left to meet Old Mine Road. This was the way down to old Decker's Ferry, one of the oldest ferries on the Delaware, dating from the 1770s. Due to the large S-curve in the river, this was the only place on the river where you could cross into PA by heading east! Also near this lane is a marker commemorating Old Mine Road, one of only two that still exist.

Fort Walpack, another French & Indian War bastion that may have been located in this area, is depicted on a couple of mid-1700s maps and described in a 1758 letter as a "wooden church, a small blockhouse, palisaded", an interesting combination of structures for a fort. Just beyond the Old Mine Road marker and just before reaching the Rosenkrans Ferry lane, there once stood the Lower Dutch Walpack church, built in 1747. Traces of this ancient church are difficult to locate, if they exist at all.

The private lane leading to the former Rosenkrans Ferry is on the left about a quarter-mile from Decker's Ferry lane. Like most ferries of the era, it was little more than a large flat-bottomed boat capable of carrying one car, or a horse and wagon, guided across the river by an overhead cable. To get the ferryman's attention from the Pennsylvania shore, customers rang a bell.

Just beyond the Rosenkrans Ferry lane, along the sharp drop-off on the left, is the site of a little known local legend called Ruthern Jump. The legend says that a man named Ruthern jumped down this steep incline for a quart of rum and broke his neck. No one knows whether he survived long enough to take a sip.

For a mile and a half beyond the Rosenkrans ferry lane, Old Mine Road passes a few houses and another lane known as Smith's Ferry. Just beyond, a gate terminates your journey until the road is repaired. Hopefully that will occur soon, because there are many more interesting sites of interest along Old Mine Road before it exits New Jersey at Port Jervis, New York.

Further on up the road...

Comments

Bob Taschler
15 Aug 2010, 05:54
Garrett Asks National Park Service to Preserve Historic Structures

Congressman Scott Garrett (R-NJ) today sent a letter to Dennis Reidenbach, the Regional Director for the Northeast Region of the National Park Service (NPS), requesting that the National Park Service discontinue the demolition of historic structures at the Delaware Water Gap National Recreation Area (DEWA). The letter, co-signed by Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), asks the National Park Service to work toward preserving the historic structures, make the National Park Service’s decision-making process transparent and cooperate with the public in the preservation of these historic structures.

Garrett.Newsletter@housemail.house.gov
S Crockett Robertson
07 Aug 2010, 10:02
I spent many years as a pre-teen and teenager living in a cabin w/outhouse on the cliffedge of the river and walking the woods, Old Mine road and the surrounding area. We fetched drinking water from an indian spring, watched eagles, bears, panthers, muskrats, etc, rode horses at a small family stable, ate ice cream from an old general store with an antique register, picked up fossils roadside, and swam and boated the river. Those were the happiest days of my life; I am 64 now. We were forced to leave when rumors sparked the real estate grab. I prayed they wouldn't destroy the area by flooding it as planned. The spot where our cabin stood would have been a small island and so much would be lost. I am grateful that never came to pass. It is and was too special to destroy. It will never be what it was but, in spite of the development I know many will get to enjoy it.
Robert W. Kovacs
04 Aug 2010, 17:48
I have many good memories of the Gap. I grew up in Carteret, NJ and was a member of B.S.A.Troop 84. Our Scout leader was Bill Comba, (The Chief) We would go to Camp Cowaw every summer. 1966 was my most memorable year there. We camped in Pioneer Village. It was real camping. We slept in tents and cooked our food over open camp fires..I now live in Washington, NJ (Warren Co.) and take drives to were the old Camp Cowaw was. It's still a beautiful place with a lot of good memories.
Don Pace
06 Jul 2010, 05:56
Lived at Camp Pahaquarra for 4 years. My father was camp Ranger after Lennie Rue. Love camp area and have a lot of history of camp and the Copper Mines.Co-wrote a book in 1995 with some 30-35 of my pictures in it. I have given talks and walks at the mines in the past. Would like to hear from others about thier days at Camp Pahaquarra and the area of Pahaquarry Township.
Thanks for any stories you may have. Don Pace
t-bone
24 Jun 2010, 14:36
Spent summers from 1966-72 at Camp Pahahquarra. I can't remember where I parked at the mall some days, yet somehow I still remember the Official Song:

There's a camp along the Delaware
Pahaquarra is it's name
From the rising sun, 'til the day is done
We have lots of fun up there
In the water deep we learn to swim
Jump right on in it's fine
They've got the eats to make you feel good
Oh, how the cooks can cook
At Pahaquarra on the Delaware
We don't mean Cowaw
Pahaquarra on the Delaware
Dave Christenberry
20 Jun 2010, 00:24
Great info. My family had links to Shawnee, PA going back at least to the 40's, and my brother and I went to the original Eagle's Nest Camp from '70-'79. Many of the commenters above are old friends...brings back great memories from my camp days and even early childhood near the river. Thanks!
Patricia Wilson Alpaugh
15 Jun 2010, 08:43
I just found this site.Judy Chastain,
how are you and hello to Elliot I still
remember our lifeguard test you tried
to drown us ha ha. I have a lot of nice
memories about ENC and I miss everyone.
There'll never be another camp like that.
Hope to get in touch with some of you.
Patty
Paul Hurst
07 Jun 2010, 07:13
I am a 76 year biker. On a vacation trip from Montreal to Washington, I wanted to drive through the Delaware Gap Park on Highway 209. By having a closer look I noticed the Old Mine Road and would like to use that one by being "beamed back" to the "good old times". My question is: Can I drive the whole 40+ miles on my Honda Goldwing Touring motorcycle? In other words, what is the road condition of the Old Mine Road?

Thank You

Paul Hurst
Nick Homyak
14 May 2010, 07:51
Old Mine Road should close from the Hercules rod and gun club to Old Mine Dirt at the end of Pompey Hill. This would restore the beauty of the area and prevent negative impacts, trash litter along this section. No one lives here. It could be hiked. Less road maintenance for the National Park Service. Organic Act any one. Make New Jersey Wild and recreational.

During the 1000 year Floods of 2005/2006 this section of road was closed it was so nice; eagles bears crossing from the corn field to Pompey Hill. Had all the trash cleaned up. Beautiful views of the River and no cars.
Don't forget when ever visiting bring a trash bag and help keep land clean, too many visitors or users donot.
Purple Bishopress West
07 May 2010, 06:02
Dear Old ENCers: I have downloaded some interesting aerial photos of ENC (Google Earth,etc.). Incredible memories and ENC website is fantastic! Thank You so much for this trip down memory lane.
I was a camper and staff memmber for many years. The ENC Website Facebook photos are incredible!! Thank You so very much!
Hello to Billy K. and Dee-Dee, Danny, Judi, Dave, Mike, Danny W., and everyone! Guess Who,
Girl's Chief of Staff....'79??
Signed,
Geologist/Paleoseismologist on West Coast, (CA).
PS: Anyone up for a copper mine hike next time I'm on East Coast? I'd also like to visit the old ENC site.
Jonathan Laing
02 Jan 2010, 09:17
I remember as a kid going to Holiday House (Eagles Nest) with my family. My brothers worked at the camp as counselors and I vaguely remembered the swimming pool and the fireplace inside the dining area. I was such a sad thing to hear that is all gone now. I found some photos in a book published for River towns of the Delaware Water Gap. Brought back some memories of those days. I would like to see other photos if anyone has them.
Eric Geis
30 Nov 2009, 15:54
I was a camper at Camp Pahaquarra in the mid-late 50's. My troop was in Pennington NJ. My most vivid memory of the camp was that there was no 50 yards of land that was either stright or level. By the end of the camping, your legs were in fine shape.

I too, appreciate the effort made to complie and write the history of this area.

Regards,

Eric Geis
Artaray Thomas
24 Oct 2009, 02:19
I went to Eagles Nest Camp the summer of 1971 and 1972 while I was living in a childrens home. I have fond memories of that place. I remember my first summer I started as a none swimmer I hated that so much that by the time I left I was a Jr. Lifeguard! I was in a play there, as a matter of fact it was Peter Pan LOL. The hiking trips were awesome. I will never forget that place.
Judi Alden Chastain
16 Oct 2009, 17:27
Fellow Eagles Nesters, check out this:

http://thetrybe.com/ENCsongframe.html
Judi Alden Chastain
16 Oct 2009, 17:08
I'm reading this because I went to Eagles Nest from 68 to 76. I also have continued to sing the ENC songs to my children for years. Still can sing them word for word. I recently joined facebook, and found more ENC people. The karchers, mike and dave christenberry, kathy foppes, lois brouillard ... I remember you, Elliott, and I'm wondering if the Laura who left the last note is maybe Laura Hofgesang. We've been looking for those hofgesangs. Leave another message, and go to facebook, and look me up. In my friends, You'll find more familiar names from our days at ENC.
Laura
12 Sep 2009, 08:41
I attended Eagle's Nest Camp from 1970 to 1979 and my 19, 16, and 10 year kids now know all the best camp songs because of Eagle's Nest. I have been a teacher for 15 years and every child I have taught knows "The Littlest Worm". I still talk about hiking long trails, learning how to swim, three day trips down the Delware, J turns, bug juice, kp, being jealous that my bday wasn't during the summer and I couldn't run around the mess hall to the chants of "GO, GO, GO," There was even a girl that knew every kid's name at camp within two days. Wonderful vivid memories. Oh, Eagle's Nest Camp we sing to thee, the place where every kid just loves to be...WHO'S CAMP...OUR CAMP...WHAT CAMP...EAGLE'S NEST


David in Bearstown
12 Sep 2009, 06:52
Interesting article, Bob. Thanks!

There's also a ton of info and old photos of forgotten river towns in this [excellent] recently published book:

http://books.google.com/books?id=YElFxJdEoL0C&pg=PA6&lpg=PA6&dq=dorflinger+ book+river&source=bl&ots=9UNvSieGw8&sig=ZKUKbjxUCM3EMvvX0NHHnSKkYnw&hl=en&e i=eaSrSuWYLYPOlAfO5KnnBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4#v=onepage&q =&f=false
David in Bearstown
12 Sep 2009, 06:13
LoveTheTrails,
You're right, it seems the DVH owner is something of a nut.

http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com/2009/07/electrified-bearproofing-devic e-nearly-kills-little-girl-delaware-water-gap

And he's very, very lucky that the girl survived.
Don Pace
27 Aug 2009, 16:40
Saw the comment from Larry Schear on July28. Would like to get in touch with him. I lived at Camp Pahaquarra for 5 years. My father was camp Ranger after Lennie Rue left.I collect all that I can on the camp and the mines. I have given guided tours and historical talks to many groups.Would like to talk to Larry. Please see if you can get me in touch with him or anyone who has pictures or stories. THANK YOU.
Don Pace
pace.donald@rcn.com
Elliot Debella
11 Aug 2009, 15:10
I was the Pool Director at Eagles Nest Camp for a number of years during the 1970's. Many great memories and fun activities....counselor races, overland/overwater races, great food, banquet on last camp night, etc. Very character building. Sorry to read about the knocking down of buildings...the memories can never be destroyed!!
carol b deniz (szekeres)
04 Aug 2009, 21:44
i camped at the old mine in for 15 years and would love to see some old friends frome the area. it is a great place full of much memories. someday i hope to see it brought back to its glory days
Larry Schear
28 Jul 2009, 16:43
Just foubnd this website - Attended Camp Pahaquarra from '53 through '59 - still have old maps, etc. - will collect images and memories and forward. Copper mines, Sunfish Pond, Skyline, Doc Shack, cold water showers, Indian tribe Named campsites, shooting a skunk at above the rifle range (not I; 'twas Dave Rizzuto!), etc.
Sharon
27 Jul 2009, 16:20
Hi - I was there at Eagle's Nest Camp (1968/69)...the whole summer. The CTIs were great and the kids were my dearest friends. I miss them still. I am so sorry to hear that it is no more: "If you want to go tramp, tramp, tramp. Let me tell you about a swinging camp. Eagles Nest is the place be. Eagle's Nest for you and me." That was our song. That was a great time.

How blessed we all were to have been there. Nothin' like capsizing a canoe because you have to ... to get your canoing badge! To our counselors: Rusty, Denise, Dave, et al...thanks for giving us kids our own "Summer of Love" in '69! Woodstock had nothin' on us, at least in our minds.
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26 Jul 2009, 23:19
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Florence Post
22 Jul 2009, 20:51
Back in 1946-47-48 a group of us went to Kamp Karamac and enjoyed it tremendously. It was a rough type of living and it was carefree. I'm 80 now but still remember swimming, boating and dancing at the camp. After reading about the area, I may drive up there and sightsee.
Thanks for the write-up and area information.
todd struse
13 Jul 2009, 06:06
Went to summer camp across the river
from '65 through '73 Hiked Old mine road, AT and Sunfish pond during that time. I love the area and have been very interested in it's history. I visit often
Dick Leslie
10 Jun 2009, 04:11
I went to Eagles Nest Farm from 1949 until 54. Think I knew Bill Gamble. Certainly knew my namesake Canon Leslie although he claimed to be no relation of mine. KP, early morning bugle, campfires, scary stories, vespers. All comes back. How about those toilets? All fond memories except for one priest who made a bunch of us 12 year olds put Kirkmans yellow soap in a cup with a little water and swish it and hold it in our mouths til we puked for saying, "Moses tied his ass to a tree and walked 20 miles."
LoveTheTrails
11 May 2009, 10:52
Hello all,
I LOVE the entire Old Mine Road area, and have hiked many of the trails back there. Douglas Trail is one of my absolute favorites and the waterfall at the beginning of the trail is just beautiful.

One comment, though......I've stopped in that Del View House General Store a few times and I find the owner to be a very rude man. NOT very friendly and even seems annoyed to have anyone stop in.

I won't give him my business anymore.
Lizz
23 Apr 2009, 05:18
Awsome place Me and my father went there to go hicking we love it so much we go every weekend
William C. Gamble
18 Apr 2009, 10:37
I was a camper for six years and a counselor for two at Eagles Nest Farm when Canon William O. Leslie was the director of the camp. Was there as a counselor during the great flood on August 19, 1955. Whatever became of the camp? Is it still in existance in some other place?
John
07 Apr 2009, 12:39
My father, Jack Griffiths, worked at Camp Pahaquarra in the early 1960's. He also played in a local band- The Delaware River Bottom Boys.
Bob Dahl
01 Apr 2009, 21:39
Eagles Nest Camp closed down in the 1990's. There is a group on Facebook.

My father went there in the '20's. My sister was girl's chief, my brother a kitchen boy, and I spend a couple of summers being a counselor. Some of the most fun and hardest work I have ever done.

ENC fell into disrepair for years, and was purchased by the truck service station next door, and for many years the parade grounds and colors areas were full of old tractor-trailers. Depressing. Then they knocked all the buildings down, and now there is nothing left of it - except a lot of great memories of singing and having fun (and working hard!)

Hunter's Lodge, and the Humpty Dumpty! Blair's Knob, the Glen, the Overnight Shack, the Crow's Nest, Arts & Crafts shack, Rec Hall, Mess Hall. Holiday House!!?? All gone. Even cabin 14, my favorite... even though it was about 50 feet from Rt 46! It was kind of hard to get the campy feeling listening to the trucks whine past at 60 mph all night...
Dave
29 Mar 2009, 20:22
Beautiful area. I went to Eagles Nest Camp july of 1969. What ever happened to the camp? What is there now?
JOSEPH FISCHER
22 Mar 2009, 09:29
Hi my name is JOE FISCHER and I AM 71 years old and have been hiking the AT and the COPPERMINE ROAD for sixty years now, and still LOVE doing it.
I SPENT MANY HAPPY DAYS AT CAMP COWAW AS A SCOUT, STAFF MEMBER AND AS LOVER OF NATURE. HIKING AND CANOEING IN THIS AREA GOES BEYOND WORDS ALONE WOW!! WHAT A GREAT FEELING. WITH GREAT AND LOYAL FRIENDS LIKE ALBERT ZUSMAN AND BOB BOWEN MADE MY LIFE MORE ENJOYABLE AND MEMORABLE
THANKS GUYS AND FIRM BOUND IN BROTHERHOOD
THREE CHIEFS OF COWAWLODGE #9 O. A.

BY THE WAY I NOW LIVE ON THE DELAWARE A LITTLE UPSTREAM IN SHOHOLA PA.










John Snyder
02 Mar 2009, 17:50
I spent three summers and several winter weekends at Camp Pahaquarra, hiked to both Catfish and Sunfish Ponds. I explored the two larger mines all the way in many times, and to this day remember the twists and turns of the largest mine. Our Explorer Post 51 from Frenchtown, built the waterfront cabin following the 1955 flood. We also helped Lenny Rue cut timber that was used to rebuild many of the structuers destroyed by the flood. During winter weekends back in the late 1950s, and before we had licenses,we didn't think anytihng of driving our Explorer leader's jeep from camp down to the Copper Mine Inn to get sodas and play bumper pool. As much as I enjoyed my summer weeks at Pahaquarra, the best times were our winter working and hunting weekends.
Bob Lewis
26 Feb 2009, 11:51
I spent a few summers as a teen (1973-1976) canoe camping along the Delaware.. We had the pleasure of finding Coppermine Inn and we hiking the short hile to the actual copper mine and explored the mine. (before NPS added the gate) The mine was carved from solid rock seemed safe we explored back several hundred yards and comes to a T and branches off in both directions abount 100 yards... If your flashlight goes out, it is so dark you cant see your hand in front of your face.
Also hiked to Sunfish pond following the stream at Worthington.. great memories.....
John Mayer
11 Jan 2009, 12:44
I have wonderful memories of this area. My father was camp director at Pahaquarra. We spent several memorable summers at camp. We stayed in a farmhouse near the edge of the river. The camp ranger during this time was the naturalist Lennie Rue. I remember walking under the road in a tunnel next to a brook that ran between the nature area and the upper camp proper. I remember riding up to the rifle range in a 6 wheel drive govt surplus ammo carrier. Every night we had retreat on the parade ground..they would fire a small cannon. Also fires in the area adjacent to the waterfront. Later when I was a scout my father was directing camp Mohican, over the top of the mountain. My first 5 mile hikes were across the mountain to Pahaquarra. Another 5 mile hike was to Sunfish pond. I have been in the mine as far as the gate many times. The Order of the arrow campfire area was very close to the mine entrance. In 1976 after I had joined the Navy, while on leave some friends of mine and I camped there. Even getting the front tire of my Moms station wagon stuck in the edge of the foundation of the old farm house. At that time the Old Copper mine inn was still open for business.It's a shame tocks island closed so many things in this area. Boy scouts should still be enjoying those camps, as well as camp Mohican.
Gail Donohue
04 Jan 2009, 22:40
I too went to Eagle's Nest Camp. Camper from 1974-1979 when the camp move to Linwood MacDonald facility in Stoke State Forest for sereval years. I was counselor and Water front director there. VERY good memories
Rob MacGregor
11 Nov 2008, 09:35
I have happy memories of being a camper there in the early '50s
Amanda
08 Sep 2008, 09:22
I've lived in Sussex County all my life, but recently moved to Stillwater Twp. I drove down the road where the Delaware Water Gap Rec. area entrance was supposed to be, but it is closed. Do you know why it's closed or when it closed? Was it due to the flood you spoke of? It was difficult to tell from your description if the road I am speaking of is or even near Old Mine Road, but I have a feeling it is. So far, your site is the only one with any info at all about this. I would love a response. Thanks!
Richard Fisher
30 Aug 2008, 11:26
I found an old picture with my Grandparents in a group of 100 or so people titled Kamp Karamac July 4, 1946

So I looked up to find more info about it. If anyone is interested in the picture please let me know.
randy
03 May 2008, 19:53
I heard about a place called the hornet nest on old mine road in sussex county. Do you know anything about this place?
Chris Merrill
07 Apr 2008, 09:52
I am interested in finding out about which trails in the Delaware Water Gap area would work well for a group of 10-12 backpackers hoping to start at one camp site near a road, cover 7-9 miles, have another campsite, and then another 5-8 miles ending at another campsite near road access. Any ideas? We are from the DC area and hope to spend Memorial Day weekend hiking in the area.
Bonnie (Masten) Mrozek
22 Mar 2008, 11:06
I have a souvenir from "The Karamac"- it is an anniversary piece ( a copper arrowhead with a stamped and painted Indian Chief w/ headdress on it); I was wondering what year it was from and if it had any value?
It is in almost perfect condition; the only flaw is a few scratch marks on the banner on the back and the "M" is partially missing in the word Karamac.Also, I wanted to note that it is a keychain and still has the copper chain attached.
Retha
15 Mar 2008, 15:44
Thank you so much for sending me to this site. It has provided me with a lot of much needed information. With your description as you traveled along, it provides me with a feel of what the area must have been like in earlier years. Beautiful pictures too. THANKS!
Susan Calo
12 Mar 2008, 12:37
Hi Bart. I have heard of Eagles Nest Camp and in fact worked as a camp counselor there in 1975 and 1976. It was a great camp and was funded by the Archdiocese of Newark. My uncle who is now 91 went there when he was a kid. By the time I worked there a pool was added and lots of upgrades made. Kids who came had a great time. We sang songs all the time. We also took the kids on "overnights" on the mountain across the street. There was a beautiful glen across the street we used to take the kids to also. At night alot of the counselors went to Hunters Lodge with was right next to the camp. Lots of good memories from time spent at the beautiful setting.
mel
27 Feb 2008, 17:18
I think you should add better pictures
Bart Hunter
27 Jan 2008, 10:31
Hi Great information.

I wonder if you know or have ever heard of Eagle('s?) Nest camp. It was located a few miles south of the Gap. It was on the left hand side of the road headed north with a large field between the road and the camp. The camp backed up on the river. I know it was active in the 1950's.

Thank you for any information.

GRUNKLEPA
06 Jan 2008, 01:37
GREAT SITE,I NEED MORE OLD PICTURES OF OLD MINE ROAD,BUT NOT FROM BOOKS

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